MR. GULICK: Bob Griffin better get up and investigate this table, it's on wheel, but it's solid, you can't move it. He invented the duck foot shovel mounted in rubber that would vibrate and it would never plug or anything. He's from Chester, I know him well.

I'm Ray Gulick from Joplin. I want to point out a few things you can use. After the death of my mother, we sold the farm to my nephew. He was a working fool and we thought he'd make out good especially as he had a truck firm to help out. But, recently, he put the farm in CRP and has torn down all fences and bull pens and telephone pole bull stuff, and burned all that stuff and piled it into a big hole about the size of this room. Also the mustard seed combine that my brothers invented and the plows they invented, so the farm is no longer a farm and he can never get back into farming. So he has moved to Billings. Two reasons, low prices for his labors and he simply gave up and quit.

I and my dad homesteaded 320 acres in 1931 after we came back from California. And starting with nothing, using horses, neighbors came and broke up the sod, but the Roosevelt Farm Program prevented us from raising wheat so we raised mustard seed. Three out of five seed crops were okay, but two out of five were failures, but we kept on. Now, it's all gone and I'm living there to keep them from tearing the house -- having the Hutterites tear the house down, the stone house we built for my mother in 1935. So I wish to comment.

Alberta and Saskatchewan are in the same trouble we are. Farm after farm auctions and bankruptcies up there, you can't believe it. I'm 85 next week, so it doesn't really, but I'm concerned about the young people who no longer have faith in us oldsters. The Hutterites are competition also, but we made room for them because they are friendly, christian peoples. And then there was a little story a few years ago about one of the big store chains would bring cattle down from Canada and sell them in the Chicago meat markets and they'd buy them back, and then the next week the same bunch of cattle came down again and then the next week the same bunch of cattle. And they kept that up and it broke the market and it didn't cost them very much. But it kept the market low. That's another thing that ought to be looked into.

You know I got lost coming up here trying to find this building, I see now where all the State's tax dollars went over the years. For 50 years, I farmed 99 and 9/10 acres of wheat and tried to get it raised to 100 so I could add and subtract. Well, that's another thing, the boards were worthless. And, lately -- well, eight years ago I was taken in by the request of the President's administration to write in and suggest policy for the President, so I did. I registered each letter to make certain he got it, he had to sign for it. Each morning the mail girl would take them up to him, her name was Monica. You know, what happened there.

Well, I was going to drop this off, but I think I should mention it. There's a corner room in the basement of the White House where the curmudgeons exist, the Federal Reserve Banking. Allen Greenspan, I heard him mentioned before, they have their own view of things and they are powerful, their recommendation is more powerful than anything we do. Our bankers are the first line of defense against enemies, poverty, and production coming to a halt. And then space, we've got to keep on. Well, this is the rally up at Sweet Grass, I was the last speaker up there, too.

On April 14th, I had a little piece in the paper about Dan Glickman, Secretary of Agriculture, has a vast organization all working to a common goal, namely, keeping America's farmers on the job, producing food, and out of the bankruptcy courts. Many ideas work together to keep the income up for farmers, but the intense competition and the unexpected good fortune of lots of rain can upset the markets and the price, which is the bottom line in any business. But like the Army, Navy, and Air Force, so much money is spent in unexpected ways and one can get into trouble. Thank the lord or someone for debit financing to allow these extra benefits.

Everyone came here to protest the family farm versus the corporate farm. Sure you do business by the most efficient way of life-style, but the family farmer is all of these things in one package tied with a red ribbon. Let's see what else I said.

Well, this here was one on parliament I don't think you want to hear that. See, our form of government was follow parliament, but when the king got ornery, we had to quit him. But parliament was the christian government and well, the Irish are doing it right now, fighting them, it's the secret Arab societies from the crusader times that they're -- well, terrorism really gets the job done, it really does. We can't allow that kind of stuff.

So, anyhow, oh, here we go. World One Piece Treaty made Germany feed Europe and we couldn't sell our wheat out here. And in 1948, we fed Germany, first time in history that a nation fed a former enemy. Senator Wheeler said in 1922, 12 cents a bushel is not enough, but people just lived out there and they didn't need very much. I messed up on the parity thing here, you want to hear about that, I think.

The principle of parity. The government has a job and everyone gets paid. War is parity, social security on a massive scale is parity. Building roads, renovating cities, that's parity. Supporting medical programs is parity. Well, maybe you should you know the divine right of kings to rule was breaking down in the about the time of the American Revolution, and other ideas were making their -- had made themselves known. Not the least, was the American Revolution throwing off the kings to rule. The practice of democracy and the king's councils of the revolutionary idea that the lord sought to rule, let alone the common workers, led to the formation of parties and advocating loudly their right to be heard. Governments responded with secret meetings, and then were further strengthened by secret words of recognition and secret handshakes and other agendas were adopted from the secret Arabs a thousand years ago in the crusades. And except for the Christian beliefs of openness and honesty, it would be the like the Senefen(Phonetic) in Ireland, they mean well but secrecy creates its own problems. In our own country, we call them the secret caucuses for party organizing and adopting policy otherwise truth and openness is required at all times. Thank you.

MR. NELSON: Thank you very much, Ray. Panel, any questions or comments for Ray?

MR. GALVIN: Thank you for your testimony, thank you very much.

MR. SCHROEDER: I'm against the divine right of kings also.